16 asjatundjat 17-st, kes teda vanglas 3 nädalat järjest jälgisid, arvavad, et ta on süüdiv ehk siis terve mõistusega.
Minu jaoks siiani kõige asjalikuma ja mõistlikuma jutuna on mõjunud need (psühhiaatrite) tunnistused:
"Johannesen's theory is that Breivik's
sense of failure has
been of great importance that he may have been more and more radicalized
- It was so difficult
for him to bear, and in the stage, he has become more radical, and ideology has
been important to him to save himself.
Johannesen said he believes the defendant is different in court than in Ila,
where he can allow himself to be more relaxed.
- Here in the court, he plays a role which he totally does not get to. He is a
bit clumsy at it, said the witness.
He has a logical and coherent speech. He has not shown any signs of cognitive
impairment. He has shown consistently good concentration and attention, good
working memory, and his ability level is the average of the population, says
Johannsen.
Breivik is a particularly
difficult case.
She has met many murderers
and people with mental disorders, but admits, however, that Breivk is a special case.
- It is very difficult to assess psychosis in Breivik because
he has an enormous amount of knowledge,
although this is not the breadth of knowledge, so he has an overview of a lot.
More empathy than
I first thought
Johannesen said it
seemed as if Breivik moderated gradually in
court.
- To me it shows
that he understands that things
can look very strange to others. He sees that
this is more comical than he had imagined,
says Johannessen of
the Oslo District Court.
He believes the accused has given a credible explanation
of why he sometimes smiles at inappropriate places. The witness did
not want to go into detail
on this, but said in court that he had
seen things that could explain
why the defendant smiled.
He is not an empathetic person ... but as time
has gone, so I understood
that he shows the
person that he has been described
by friends. He is a different person when he wants to play their roles.
- I would not say he has a lot of empathy
for the family, but there's
something there that I did not think
at the very start, add to the psychological specialist.
Tried to get leaks to the media
He also says Breivik has been playing on emotions in an attempt to influence those who treated him. He
also tried to get them to leak the information to the press.
- He believed what
he says to us is leaking to the media, so he thought he could use a bit, said the witness.
Johannesen said this slowed as they denied
that they were going to tell
something from their conversations.
He is not concerned
with sane safety issue as many would
think. He shows an ability
to anticipate the comments in the media. He can say
that "At present I am probably more irresponsible," and I see on TV that is
what the commentators say.
Johannesen said that
the most important for Breivik
is that there is interest
in the matter.
- It encourages more people to read his compendium."
Good idea. Ma polegi tema manifesti juba üle kuu aja lugenud, kuna mulle ei meeldi arvutis pikki tekste lugeda, mistõttu..khm..peaksin kõik selle 3.nda osa välja printima, hahaa XD

ABB võluv kaitsetiim, kooseisus (vasakult): Tord Jordet, Odd Ivar Grøn, Geir Lippestad, Vibeke Hein Bæra
Reedel oli eriti vaimukas, kui üks tunnistaja (prof. Malt) kahtlustas, et Breivikul võib olla Aspergeri sündroom. Kui ma arvasin, et see on naljakas, siis naljakamaks läks, kui nägin, et ühtlasi kahtlustab ta Tourette'i sündroomi. Seda tunniajase vaatluse põhjal, mis ta kohtus tegi. No siis hakkas juba tõesti naljakas...Kari psühhiaatreid on koos ning loobitakse kõikvõimalikke diagnoose õhku: paranoiline, skisofreenik, nartsissist, psühhootiline, depressiivne, Aspergeri sündroom, Tourette'i sündroom.
Parem võiks juba tulla kohtusse ja lugeda ette kõikvõimalikud diagnoosid, mida mingite sümptomite klappimisel on võimalik panna.
Breivik oli selle tunnistaja jutust üsna häiritud ning sekkus,öeldes, et see on alandav ja solvav.
Ütles, et algul tundis ta end üsna solvatuna, aga siis tundus see kõik tema jaoks lihtsalt koomilisena.
Antud tunnistaja ütluste ajal Breivik korduvalt naeris ja muigas.
"I want to congratulate Malt
with a well-executed character assassination. Maybe the best since 22
July"
Kohtupsühhiaatrid, 2 neist (ABB-le lähemal istuvad) järeldasid, et ta on süüdiv, ülejäänud 2 järeldus oli, et ta on süüdimatu.
Selline Postimehe artikkel ka:
"Johannesen ütles kohtule, et ta on «täiesti veendunud», et Breivik ei ole
vaimuhaige, ja omistas talle poliitiliselt ekstreemse radikaalse nägemuse. «Tema
ideoloogiat ei saa ravida ühegi teraapia või ravimiga,» sõnas Johannesen."
Mõned netikommentaarid:
"Korrektsuse mõtes tahan nüüd lugeda ka Breivik`u arvamust sellest
kohtumisest. Pakun välja pealkirja - Breivik - vestlus psühholoogiga oli
nagu kohtumine hulluga."
Ja mida ma isegi arvan:
"Ma sain sellest pealkirjast ja sisust nii aru, et kogu analüüsiva vestluse
hoidis Breivik vestluse Kontrolli enda käes ja Kontrolls ka seda mida avaldas.
Tähendab Breivik tunneb psühholoogiat ja oskab manipuleerida.
Kuigi
kohtuPsühhiaatriga pole mõtet manipuleerida siis tark inimene annab edasi seda
infot mida peab vajalikuks ja segab psühhiaatrit oma küsimustega, et Psühhiaater
ei saaks talitada plaani kohaselt.
Kõrgemaks psühholoogiaks võib lugeda
seda, kui suudad küsitlejat kogu vestluse küsitleda nii et ta ei saaks arugi et
on kaotanud kontrolli vestluse üle."
Hahhaaa järgmise kommentaari peale:
"Ma loeks parema meelega tammepuust nuia meenutusi kohtumisest Breivikuga."
Sama kehtib kahe järgneva kommentaari kohta:
"Ekspert, kes endale selliseid võrdlusi lubab, ei ole tõsiseltvõetav."
vastus:
"Täpselt nii. Selline ekspert on tasemelt võrreldav Miki-Hiirega."
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